Exodus.Maximus wrote:
did you try to open dng file in Dx0? (I stand corrected on Capture One) Even OpenRaw does not support DNG - I am not confusing tiff format with anything - tiff is tiff. No, not everyone reads DNG - DNG is a Adobe standard format just like pdf is - many apps can read pdf format but it still is an Adobe standard which benefits Adobe. After digging a bit to the actual DNG file it seams to be a dump container with a 100% metadata capture (using Adobe own XMP - what a shocker) (from NEF) - however, there seam to be loss of a raw format specific data (not sure exactly what but there is a data loss) (it may be just a format specific markers used by proprietary software but there was a data loss - not sure if that can cause lower performance of LR when compared to Capture NX-D or Capture One - thanks for the sleepless night yesterday - was surprised to see ) I will make a test today importing a D750 RAW converted to DNG into Capture one and comparing it to the Capture NX-D - Once the Raw support for the D750 is added to Capture One I will re-compare - so far LR performance has been a disappointment and the reason I was barking at the DNG was because I was hoping it was the format and the data loss in the conversion but I think it may be just imprecise way LR is interpreting that data - this is still to be seen. I do realize that this is an Adobe forum and for most part (most part) I was always an adobe advocate, but that does not mean that I will kiss Adobe's behind - and what exactly did you mean by this: "No compounding, merging, or rasterizing happens. It is still simply raw sensor data. All it does when you enable ADL is lower the ISO" if it is a per pixel mosaic data than a data recorded in the pixel is one thing and the D-Ligting is an additional processing information with a potential overlay filter data - if you capture just meta than it would do just what you said "lower the ISO" or in reality adjust the ISO level which can result in the higher noise. So if the DNG contains just a raw data and meta but no proprietary overlays than that can explain why LR handles lighting/exposure changes in war inferior way than the Capture NX-D which reads all proprietary data which contains any proprietary filter data - do whatever - as ssprengel said - I am not adding anything to this discussion - furthermore I am sure I am being annoying to the Adobe supporters and diehard users, so I will just remove myself rom this discussion - I hope that Canon, Sony and Nikon will not give in to the Adobe DNG bid but I also do hope that they will finally start doing what OpenRaw is hoping for - thoroughly document their raw formats... so by all means reply to this, but I am done - will block notifications in my google account as spam - cya - at the end all I did was reply to "Customers should just boycott camera manufacturers who do not conform to a unified format, such as DNG" - a statement which I could not disagree more with (and I'm sure Adobe loves)... cya
You have made many incorrect, inaccurate and totally contrived statements, comments and assertions in this discussion ... most of which are based upon a bull headed opinion and little fact.
Jast as you were mistaken about TIFF and saving Photoshop layers ... you are mistaken about the comment referencing DNG and camera makers.
I, for one, never endorsed or recommended a boycott of any kind. I simply pointed out the obvious and made the reference as long as consumers would not put pressure on the camera makers to offer a universal RAW file format ... there would not be an end to the lag time from when a new camera is released and when third party RAW processing software developers offer support. It is consumers, not manufacturers that drive the marketplace. As long as the products sell well, little will change. Without a universal RAW file format, those folks who buy big name cameras and wish to use popular third party software options must learn to accept their temporary fate for early adoption. Or speak with their wallets. That is a very basic fact of business. Not an endorsement of a boycott.
Personally, I don't care if camera makers adopt DNG or not. The big companies could get together and come up with their own ideas and file format they all can accept and work with. It would make life much easier for everyone involved if they did. Not just Adobe.